Final Thoughts

Final Thoughts
Written by John Packard
October 9, 2013
The weather in Arkansas couldn’t have been more perfect. We had temperatures in the low 70’s with a cool breeze and sunny. A perfect day to go on a mill tour.
I want to take a moment to thank all of the employees at Nucor Steel Arkansas for hosting Steel Market Update and our Steel 101 attendees earlier today. Nucor opened their doors to us answering all of our questions and allowing us to tour the Nucor Hickman steel facility.
Government shutdown is impacting a number of the economic indicators we track on a regular basis. Hopefully the government will come to their senses and we will be able to provide more information soon.
As always your business is truly appreciated by all of us at Steel Market Update.

John Packard
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